Holi Cow.. Groped in India!

Festival of colors. And yes, they grabbed my boob. Welcome to India!

Remember the TV show Outsourced? Best show ever! It was the first time we ever heard about Holi. Needless to say it quickly made its way to our bucket list.

So we came to India with that goal in mind – to celebrate Holi otherwise known as the Festival of Colors. Holi is a religious festival celebrated by Hindus. It’s celebrates the beginning of a new season, spring. During Holi, bonfires are held and people throw colored powder (gulal) at each other. Sounds like fun, right?

 Holi cow!

Our original plans were to celebrate Holi in Delhi. But we quickly changed to Mathura knowing it could get out of hand in Delhi. Then just days before we arrived, our Couchsurfer host in Jaisalmer invited us to attend his friend’s wedding which happens to be during Holi. If you know me (Q), you know it’s my bucket list wish to attend a traditional Indian wedding in India. Jaisalmer it is!

We arrived to Jaisalmer after a 16 hour overnight train ride the day before Holi. Our hosts Lucky and Vijay welcome us to their hotel inside the Fort. Spent the day wandering town and bought our Holi gear for the next day – cotton pants and white shirts, water gun and colored powder.

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I had a slight sigh of relief knowing we were going to be with locals for Holi, but that doesn’t mean I wasn’t paranoid. Everyone practically told me to stay inside my hotel, “It’s not safe. Men will touch you.”

Holi day came and we barely made it outside our hotel front doors before we were covered in shades of green and purple.. from other tourists. Phew. So far, so good. Another 50 yards down the street, in the middle of a small square, teenagers and men drenched in shades of red were eager to color us. I was half excited, half scared sh!tless.

Can you see the look of fear in my eyes? Listen carefully and you can hear me say, “I got grabbed..” A small not-so innocent tap on the butt. Nothing too alarming. Yet.

To my surprise, the crowd was tamed – beaming with genuine Happy Holi smiles. With each gulal pat on the cheek, we Happy Holiiii back and made our way through the crowd.

At that moment, I thought, we could do this. We could actually make it through Holi without being violated.

And then we turned the corner. Another group of men also smiling but with that hungry pack of wolves look in their eyes. I recognized a few familiar faces, but I was still nervous. I quickly nudged Gerard closer, reminding him to stay close to me as we walked towards the square.

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I figured if I walk with my arms across my chest in a Namaste position it would deter some of the grabbing. It was useless. Within seconds, we were ambushed. The men took turns smearing our faces with powder. I was manhandled as the men took turns hugging me. One guy came from behind and smothered my face with wet gulal. I finally had to drop my arms from my chest to pry his hands off my face. I kept my mouth closed but the gulal stung my eyes. Gerard was nowhere to be found. And then it happened..

My left boob.

I just about had it, about to raise “Holi” hell on the grabber but then he chuckled and smiled back, “But it’s Holi!” with arms in the air, shoulders shrugged.. still giggling. That made me laugh a little and I simply threw up my shoulders too, “It’s Holi..” and moved on.

I came somewhat prepared though – wearing double layer tops and a padded bra. Sure, evidently it must have been nice for the grabber, a fist full of soft boob, but for me, the grabbee, I hardly felt a thing. :) Mostly shocked that it actually happened than anything else.

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The rest of Holi was as we had hoped for. A celebration. We spent the rest of the morning perched above the steps inside the Fort watching the celebration continue below. Occasionally someone made their way up and Holi’d us and we returned the colorful gesture.

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I realized quickly how I can reject “hugs” and the men will usually back away. They were not forceful. And when I was tired of getting my face smeared, by now I was getting worried the color would set and stain for days, I simply said, “Just a little..” and they gave me a gentle tap on the cheek. Kids were my biggest fear, armed with water bottles filled with mystery colored water, but even they listened when we kindly said, “No, please..”

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Final Thoughts

Holi is a fun, colorful and joyous occasion.. for the men. The only women participants are the tourists so you can imagine the odds are not in our favor. It’s not a celebration I would recommend for female travelers alone or otherwise.

I certainly don’t want to backlash Holi, nor do I want to dumb down my experience either. I leave Holi with mix feelings. On one hand, I’m sad I was in constant fear. Wish I could have enjoyed it like the boys. Nobody was going around grabbing their “goods”. On the other hand, there were moments where I really had a great time – when the experience was genuine, no “hugs” or grabbing. It’s a feeling hard to describe – being afraid but joyful at the same time. But that was my Holi experience.

Apparently, I didn’t have it all that bad. I met a guy who told us the grabbing was uncontrollable in Jodhpur even with guy friends protecting the girls. Blogger friends in Mathura said it wasn’t a pretty picture there either.

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I consider my experience rare and lucky. Lucky that we ended up in Jaisalmer where it’s small and controlled. Lucky we had “Lucky” and Vijay, our CS hosts, and his many many town friends to look after us when things got a little rough. Lucky to have only been grabbed once. And most importantly, lucky the damn color washed off.

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Thinking of celebrating Holi in India? You should. Guys would love it. Girls, just come with a plan and preferable an arsenal of friends. We desperately wanted to Couchsurf particularly for this reason – to have locals with us for such occasion. Also, choose to celebrate Holi in a small town where the madness can be somewhat controlled. At the very least, you’ll be able to duck into alleys, climb atop Fort stairs or make it back to your hotel if things get wild.

We had an incredibly safe and fun Holi with our new friends in Jaisalmer. One that I don’t regret despite my one butt tap and boob grab. But I probably won’t ever do it again though if my boobs have a say in it.

What are some of your favorite festivals around the world?

 

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  • http://www.baconismagic.ca/ Ayngelina

    I hadn’t heard this before, I’m glad you wrote about it because I’d love to do it one day and I wouldn’t want to be shocked or surprised.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      You’re welcome. Although I think you’ll still be shocked and surprised in a different kind of way. But at least you’ll be somewhat prepared. 😉 Padded bras.. Lol

  • http://www.baconismagic.ca/ Ayngelina

    I hadn’t heard this before, I’m glad you wrote about it because I’d love to do it one day and I wouldn’t want to be shocked or surprised.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      You’re welcome. Although I think you’ll still be shocked and surprised in a different kind of way. But at least you’ll be somewhat prepared. 😉 Padded bras.. Lol

  • http://countryskipper.com/ Sabrina

    Except for the groping part this sounds and looks amazing! I can see though how people take advantage of the opportunity to do a quick grab and would be worried all day as well. I guess lots of padding, so you at least don’t feel it would be a good way to go.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      LOL, yes.. but not too much otherwise they’ll think I have huge boobs which would probably draw more attention than deter. 😀

  • http://countryskipper.com/ Sabrina

    Except for the groping part this sounds and looks amazing! I can see though how people take advantage of the opportunity to do a quick grab and would be worried all day as well. I guess lots of padding, so you at least don’t feel it would be a good way to go.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      LOL, yes.. but not too much otherwise they’ll think I have huge boobs which would probably draw more attention than deter. 😀

  • http://www.theworldofdeej.com The World of Deej

    Overall, sounds like a good experience…It’s a shame there isn’t some sort of “electric fence” that can be installed in undergarments:)

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      hrmmm… maybe bring a tazer! haha. I think it can be done.. wire something to our bras that sends electrical shock waves. LOL that would be genius!

  • http://www.theworldofdeej.com The World of Deej

    Overall, sounds like a good experience…It’s a shame there isn’t some sort of “electric fence” that can be installed in undergarments:)

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      hrmmm… maybe bring a tazer! haha. I think it can be done.. wire something to our bras that sends electrical shock waves. LOL that would be genius!

  • http://twitter.com/houseofannie Nate L

    Wicked fun! I love how bright your teeth look in contrast to the colored powders.

    Still, I think this kind of thing is not my speed…

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      Hahaha.. my photos scare me with my white teeth and purple smeared face. It’s not really my idea of fun either. At least they won’t grab your boobs! 😉

  • Gophur

    Wicked fun! I love how bright your teeth look in contrast to the colored powders.

    Still, I think this kind of thing is not my speed…

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      Hahaha.. my photos scare me with my white teeth and purple smeared face. It’s not really my idea of fun either. At least they won’t grab your boobs! 😉

  • http://atlassliced.com Alexa Hart

    Awesome advice and post. Couldn’t have described it better, as that was pretty much how I felt in Mathura. Love your line “hungry pack of wolves look in their eyes” to describe the men. Sooooo true. Thanks for the shout-out as well!

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      Thanks and no prob, Alexa! It’s hard to try and describe the feeling I had. I thought I was alone. If ever there’s a next time, we’ll wear bullet proof best! 😉 LOL

      • http://atlassliced.com Alexa Hart

        Haha! Headed to Thailand tomorrow (Krabi and Koh Phi Phi area, maybe Lanta as well). Looks like we’re right behind you guys.

        • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

          We’re heading to Samui before flying to Chiang Mai for Songkran. Where will you be celebrating Songkran?

          • http://atlassliced.com Alexa Hart

            Awesome! I hear Chiang Mai is the best spot to celebrate. We’ll still be in Krabi and Phi Phi for Songkran. If you are looking to do a cooking class in Chiang Mai, my friend told me that Kanjana Thai Resturant is a good place to do it. I’ll be there in a couple weeks. Have fun!

          • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

            Hey! How was Songkran? Ours was NUTS! We did our cooking class with Siam Rice and it was amazing. Had a great experience and the food was delicious. Highly recommend them too if you’re in town. :)

          • http://atlassliced.com Alexa Hart

            Songkran in Koh Phi Phi was craziness the first day, and then there were no more celebrations the other days. Tons of fun though. We just met a Canadian couple who teaches in Chiang Mai and recommended Siam Rice too. Def gonna check it out in a few days when we are there. Thanks!

  • http://atlassliced.com Alexa Hart

    Awesome advice and post. Couldn’t have described it better, as that was pretty much how I felt in Mathura. Love your line “hungry pack of wolves look in their eyes” to describe the men. Sooooo true. Thanks for the shout-out as well!

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      Thanks and no prob, Alexa! It’s hard to try and describe the feeling I had. I thought I was alone. If ever there’s a next time, we’ll wear bullet proof best! 😉 LOL

      • http://atlassliced.com Alexa Hart

        Haha! Headed to Thailand tomorrow (Krabi and Koh Phi Phi area, maybe Lanta as well). Looks like we’re right behind you guys.

        • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

          We’re heading to Samui before flying to Chiang Mai for Songkran. Where will you be celebrating Songkran?

          • http://atlassliced.com Alexa Hart

            Awesome! I hear Chiang Mai is the best spot to celebrate. We’ll still be in Krabi and Phi Phi for Songkran. If you are looking to do a cooking class in Chiang Mai, my friend told me that Kanjana Thai Resturant is a good place to do it. I’ll be there in a couple weeks. Have fun!

          • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

            Hey! How was Songkran? Ours was NUTS! We did our cooking class with Siam Rice and it was amazing. Had a great experience and the food was delicious. Highly recommend them too if you’re in town. :)

  • http://www.colorfulfootsteps.com/ Sherry

    I’m so torn about India! On the one hand, I want to go and this festival being the top reason. But on the other hand, the country seems too extreme for me. I certainly don’t want to be “cupped” or “tapped” and just accept it. At least you both looked like you had fun!

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      India is intense. There’s not sugar-coating it. But after a few weeks, you start to embrace it and things get much easier. It really is a beautiful country and culture. A once in a lifetime trip for sure. And I totally agree, the Holi grabbing is ridiculous but we really did have a good time in the end. Good thing for my padded bra. LOL 😉

  • http://www.colorfulfootsteps.com/ Sherry

    I’m so torn about India! On the one hand, I want to go and this festival being the top reason. But on the other hand, the country seems too extreme for me. I certainly don’t want to be “cupped” or “tapped” and just accept it. At least you both looked like you had fun!

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      India is intense. There’s not sugar-coating it. But after a few weeks, you start to embrace it and things get much easier. It really is a beautiful country and culture. A once in a lifetime trip for sure. And I totally agree, the Holi grabbing is ridiculous but we really did have a good time in the end. Good thing for my padded bra. LOL 😉

  • Anonymous

    It was good to hear about Holi from a woman’s perspective. It’s definitely something that is on the bucket list. You pictures (and video) were incredible, as always! :)

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      Do you guys have a letter going to India?! That could be cool. And.. LOL, we’re no where near your caliber of vlogging. Haha

  • CaptainandClark

    It was good to hear about Holi from a woman’s perspective. It’s definitely something that is on the bucket list. You pictures (and video) were incredible, as always! :)

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      Do you guys have a letter going to India?! That could be cool. And.. LOL, we’re no where near your caliber of vlogging. Haha

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure this would be for me (although U.S. airport security if far worse in the grope department) but I love the contrast of colors! Glad it all washed off. You would hate to be red like a tomato for the rest of your life ha.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      Oh so true on the airport security. I actually got groped about a dozen times in India but by women security. Yup, when I entered the metro, at the Taj Mahal and definitely at the airport. And yes, I was beyond glad the color washed off. We met a few girls a week later and they still had pink faces and dyed hair. Eek!

  • suzyguese

    I’m not sure this would be for me (although U.S. airport security if far worse in the grope department) but I love the contrast of colors! Glad it all washed off. You would hate to be red like a tomato for the rest of your life ha.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      Oh so true on the airport security. I actually got groped about a dozen times in India but by women security. Yup, when I entered the metro, at the Taj Mahal and definitely at the airport. And yes, I was beyond glad the color washed off. We met a few girls a week later and they still had pink faces and dyed hair. Eek!

  • http://www.dangerous-business.com/ Amanda Williams

    That’s unfortunate that you spent most of the time being wary and a bit scared… I’ll admit I didn’t know that women don’t generally participate, though. I suppose that probably explains a lot of the groping that goes on.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      Yea, I was definitely paranoid. But towards the end, it was also fun to watch from above the Fort. Probably wouldn’t have been a bad idea to stay in with the women either though.

  • http://www.dangerous-business.com/ Amanda Williams

    That’s unfortunate that you spent most of the time being wary and a bit scared… I’ll admit I didn’t know that women don’t generally participate, though. I suppose that probably explains a lot of the groping that goes on.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      Yea, I was definitely paranoid. But towards the end, it was also fun to watch from above the Fort. Probably wouldn’t have been a bad idea to stay in with the women either though.

  • http://www.themostalive.com/ Ash | themostalive.com

    I want to participate in Holi bad! Glad I read this, I think I might stick to a smaller place for it as well now…

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      They probably won’t grab your boob but you never know. LOL. Definitely stick to smaller towns – much easier to run back home if things get out of hand. :) Happy Holi!

  • http://www.themostalive.com/ Ash | themostalive.com

    I want to participate in Holi bad! Glad I read this, I think I might stick to a smaller place for it as well now…

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      They probably won’t grab your boob but you never know. LOL. Definitely stick to smaller towns – much easier to run back home if things get out of hand. :) Happy Holi!

  • http://technosyncratic.com Technosyncratic

    I’ve had quite a bit of exposure to Holi due to the large Indian population in the bay area, and it certainly doesn’t have the same undertone of violation to it. How sad that in India women aren’t very likely to participate in the celebration due to the fear of sexual harassment.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      We’re from the Bay and I didn’t even know they did Holi at Stanford until recently. Haha. Would’ve been a much safer option I’d imagine. 😉

  • http://technosyncratic.com Technosyncratic

    I’ve had quite a bit of exposure to Holi due to the large Indian population in the bay area, and it certainly doesn’t have the same undertone of violation to it. How sad that in India women aren’t very likely to participate in the celebration due to the fear of sexual harassment.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      We’re from the Bay and I didn’t even know they did Holi at Stanford until recently. Haha. Would’ve been a much safer option I’d imagine. 😉

  • http://www.walkflypinoy.com paul | walkflypinoy

    that is definitely a side of holi i only found out about today. i mean, wow! but i guess, like everything in india, it’s not all what it seems. maybe a chainmail armor or steel breast plate then? glad that you didn’t let it ruin your experience though.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      Haha steel breast plate would have came in handy. They should sell them with the gulal.. I would have bought one. 😉

  • http://www.walkflypinoy.com paul | walkflypinoy

    that is definitely a side of holi i only found out about today. i mean, wow! but i guess, like everything in india, it’s not all what it seems. maybe a chainmail armor or steel breast plate then? glad that you didn’t let it ruin your experience though.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      Haha steel breast plate would have came in handy. They should sell them with the gulal.. I would have bought one. 😉

  • http://wanderlustandlipstick.com/blogs/genywanderer/ Alana

    Love your video – minus the colored powder, it reminds me of my time in India: always looking 360 degrees around and seeing so many new people and things!

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      Thanks! Yea our camera case is still stained pink. India is a trip. 😛

  • http://wanderlustandlipstick.com/blogs/genywanderer/ Alana

    Love your video – minus the colored powder, it reminds me of my time in India: always looking 360 degrees around and seeing so many new people and things!

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      Thanks! Yea our camera case is still stained pink. India is a trip. 😛

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  • http://expatedna.com/ Edna

    Your video is WICKED! What a sensory overload. India looks crazy, scary, and awesome all at the same time!

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      Totally! India is definitely sensory overload.. all the time. :)

  • http://expatedna.com/ Edna

    Your video is WICKED! What a sensory overload. India looks crazy, scary, and awesome all at the same time!

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      Totally! India is definitely sensory overload.. all the time. :)

  • Ann

    I was in India for 2 months leading up to Holi. I wanted to experience it, but chickened out & flew to Bangkok. After I was already in Thailand, a friend in Delhi had told me he was trying to arrange a private party for me so I wouldn’t have to wander the streets. But regardless, based upon your account & the other blog posts, it didn’t seem like something I would have enjoyed as a solo female traveller.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      Aww.. we were trying to get to a private party too but ended up with locals in Jaisalmer. I totally understand why you, a solo female traveler, wouldn’t want to stick around though. I probably would’ve stayed in the hotel if I was by myself. Definitely a festival for the boys..

  • Ann

    I was in India for 2 months leading up to Holi. I wanted to experience it, but chickened out & flew to Bangkok. After I was already in Thailand, a friend in Delhi had told me he was trying to arrange a private party for me so I wouldn’t have to wander the streets. But regardless, based upon your account & the other blog posts, it didn’t seem like something I would have enjoyed as a solo female traveller.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      Aww.. we were trying to get to a private party too but ended up with locals in Jaisalmer. I totally understand why you, a solo female traveler, wouldn’t want to stick around though. I probably would’ve stayed in the hotel if I was by myself. Definitely a festival for the boys..

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  • http://www.stophavingaboringlife.com/ Rob

    I really need to get to India and make sure you meet up with @GotPassPort in Chiang Mai, they are wonderful people.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com Kieu – GQ trippin

      You really should – it’s a great country. Ahh man, really wish we had more time here. So many great bloggers in town for Songkran it was hard to keep track. Bum we didn’t get to meet @GotPassPort but met so many other wonderful ppl also. Where in the world are you now?

  • http://www.stophavingaboringlife.com/ Rob

    I really need to get to India and make sure you meet up with @GotPassPort in Chiang Mai, they are wonderful people.

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      You really should – it’s a great country. Ahh man, really wish we had more time here. So many great bloggers in town for Songkran it was hard to keep track. Bum we didn’t get to meet @GotPassPort but met so many other wonderful ppl also. Where in the world are you now?

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  • http://www.beyondblighty.com/ Arianwen

    I’ve been groped on the Rome metro (front and back – turning round obviously wasn’t the solution!); in the street in Kualar Lumpur, a man walked right up to me and grabbed my boobs; and in Marrakech, a stall owner went in for a really close hug and what I could feel pressing against me wasn’t a roll of quarters, if you catch my drift. I’ve accepted that sometimes, unfortunately, these things happen with no warning, but I won’t let it stop me participating in things. Holi looks like great fun to me. I’d definitely check it out if I had the opportunity. Like you said, lots of padding is the way to go!

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      OMG – that’s just nuts! I love your attitude though. Won’t stop me either.. I’m packing bullet proof vest next time. :)

  • http://www.beyondblighty.com/ Arianwen

    I’ve been groped on the Rome metro (front and back – turning round obviously wasn’t the solution!); in the street in Kualar Lumpur, a man walked right up to me and grabbed my boobs; and in Marrakech, a stall owner went in for a really close hug and what I could feel pressing against me wasn’t a roll of quarters, if you catch my drift. I’ve accepted that sometimes, unfortunately, these things happen with no warning, but I won’t let it stop me participating in things. Holi looks like great fun to me. I’d definitely check it out if I had the opportunity. Like you said, lots of padding is the way to go!

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      OMG – that’s just nuts! I love your attitude though. Won’t stop me either.. I’m packing bullet proof vest next time. :)

  • http://twitter.com/ChrystalClear_ Chrystal-Clear

    Its unfortunate about the grabbing but it doesn’t deter me from wanting to participate in the celebration. It seems like the perfect party to me! I’ll just double sports bra it – pancake my chest then any grab will slide on past. haha. Great photos! Did you take your SLR into the madness???

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      Haha yea wear a bullet proof vest and you’re good to go. We used our point and shoot and a camera waterproof case to protect it.

  • http://SeamsLikeChrystal.blogspot.ca/ Chrystal McKay

    Its unfortunate about the grabbing but it doesn’t deter me from wanting to participate in the celebration. It seems like the perfect party to me! I’ll just double sports bra it – pancake my chest then any grab will slide on past. haha. Great photos! Did you take your SLR into the madness???

    • http://www.GQtrippin.com/ Kieu – GQ trippin

      Haha yea wear a bullet proof vest and you’re good to go. We used our point and shoot and a camera waterproof case to protect it.

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  • Ross

    In Mexico City women ride in a crowded women-only subway wagon during morning rush hour. During rush hour, a third of the subway wagons are reserved for women and children only, to help women avoid groping and sexual harassment. This should be enforced all over the world, including Japan and India.

  • Ross

    In Mexico City women ride in a crowded women-only subway wagon during morning rush hour. During rush hour, a third of the subway wagons are reserved for women and children only, to help women avoid groping and sexual harassment. This should be enforced all over the world, including Japan and India.

  • Anglo Italian

    We want to see this so desperately, can’t believe we missed it this year too! :( We’ll try again next year!

  • http://www.angloitalianfollowus.com/ Anglo Italian

    We want to see this so desperately, can’t believe we missed it this year too! :( We’ll try again next year!

  • sayan

    don’t play holi with strangers…coz we cant educate the basterds…. maybe u couldnt feel those hands,but wht that cheap did to u is also true.double protection couldnt save u from violence.only if killing was legal,i could clean up this country.

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